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VHMan's avatar

A great piece, Daniel.

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Herbert Nowell's avatar

So, lots of thoughts.

1. I don't find this shocking. I am more shocked at how little this is thought in general, but then again I remember some of the continuation of the Days of Rage in the 70s and early 80s (I consider the 81 Brinks robbery the last gasp of 60s radicalism) yet they have been effectively memory holed and several principals rehabilitated into legitimate political actors to the point of helping select a POTUS candidate.

2. I think you are too rough on Lincoln but that you are not alone. I think we are in the part of the historical cycle where in overcoming the heroic narrative historians still don't see him as a real person, but as the villain image of the hero. And I say that as someone who considers his actions the third most important in creating the ability for the post WW2 world you describe.

3. Speaking of Lincoln, he was 7 when Liberia was founded. It declared independence from the US in 1847 although the US didn't recognize it until 1862 under Lincoln. Certainly something similar was what he supported, and in retrospect he might have been right, but he was not directly involved in its creation.

4. I'd put the date of sustained illegitimacy of Presidential elections at 2000, not 1992. While I do understand and heard the claims of illegitimacy you reference relative to Clinton I also heard those about Kennedy who was dead before I was born and about Nixon and Reagan's re-election.

What I didn't hear, and what Nixon specifically rejected in 1960, was the candidate himself engaging in that publicly. It was Gore who broke that taboo and I think that is critical. Once Gore did "polite society" allowed such beliefs became an acceptable thing to act upon. There is a much stronger line between his lawsuits and January 6 than anything said about Clinton or Nixon or Kennedy.

Once people who wield the power "awarded" in our elections decide bare-knuckle fighting in public is allowed the genie is out in a way all the post 60s violence never achieved.

5. My only surprise about last Saturday was we made it this far.

6. I think a very important extension of why it is worse now, as you admit around directly affecting high level elections (as opposed to things like The Battle of Athens) is the increasing centralization of power. While you allude to this I'd say Shelby Foote's "the United States are" vs. "the United States is" (harkening the problem all the way back to Lincoln) is the less relevant lower levels of power are and the less relevant certain states are (see the California exemption under the Clean Air Act allowing Sacramento to effective set air pollution policy nationwide) the more all the stakes are on that one bet, the President.

The irony is, as you showed on your Chevron post, the one institution pushing back on that "all the stakes" thinking, the SCUS, had made itself the single biggest stake and restoring it to that position is the goal of at least half the current factions (and not just on the Left).

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